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Saturday 18 April 2015

CHERYL'S BIRTHDAY - THE FINAL VERDICT



It must be a sign of the times that a simple maths question from Singapore can become an overnight internet sensation last week. Gone were the times when those equations and formulas simply evaporated and wafted away as soon as you walk out of the exam hall. No way. Now you see and hear debate and discussion everywhere between the majority left-brain 'July 16' people and a smaller yet belligerent, supposedly right-brain 'August 17' faction who feel obligated to rebel against the rather totalitarian-sounding Official Correct Answer.

Just as quickly as when it first exploded, the fever has almost completely subsided now save for a few pockets of die-hard people still suffering from the withdrawal symptoms of their once-in-a-lifetime intellectual exertion. You can easily identify them when you find them suddenly stopping at a street corner with their jaw tilted 30 degrees seemingly deep in thought. I'm writing this article to help put these people out of their misery and hopefully coax them back to become productive members of the economy again.

Preamble

Because of the high stakes involved, secondary school maths is no longer considered adequate to solve this. So a wider array of methods including common sense, logic, philosophy, critical thinking, linguistic analysis and other uses of human reason are employed.

The two men wanted to know when Cheryl's birthday is (never mind what they planned to do!) and apparently were engaged in a dialogue to help each other find the answer without saying aloud what Cheryl had already told them separately. All ten dates as given by Cheryl were possible.

All details of the narrative as set by SASMO will be taken literally.

We must remember that we should take the point of view of either Albert or Bernard when trying to analyze their actions. We must not take the audience's perspective because each of them had different priorities and had different sets of information available to them.

Though this is supposed to be a maths problem, it is only mathematical for the audience. Albert and Bernard were not taking a maths test - they were trying to solve a puzzle and they should be allowed to behave like normal human beings, thinking and acting logically but occasionally prone to human failings and limitations.

Let's just restrict our considerations to the 2 possible answers, viz. July 16 and August 17, ie, Albert was told either July or August and Bernard 16 or 17.

It is my opinion that the common method of reasoning from the audience's point of view and eliminating invalid dates as we follow the dialogue is actually wrong. I believe that we should reverse the process. Start at the end and work backwards from the 2 scenarios, each bearing an assumed answer and see whether they satisfy the narrative and the behaviour of the 2 men. The scenario that is the more plausible and has fewer contradictions will be the correct one.

3 areas of ambiguity:

(1) Albert said: "I don't know when Cheryl's birthday is, but I know that Bernard does not know too."

Let's break what he said into 2 parts. The first part is "I don't know when Cheryl's birthday is, ...". Here, either he was just declaring that he was starting the game with no knowledge or he was trying to tell Bernard that the month is not June (June 17 becomes a giveaway date when June 18 has been eliminated as one of the initial giveaway dates) .

But, he went on to say that "... but I know that Bernard does not know too." Was he saying that to express his thought that they were starting the game with equal ignorance? Or was he trying to tell Bernard that he was told July or August, and therefore he knew that Bernard could not be told 18 or 19 (being unique dates, June 18 and May 19 are giveaway dates). Was he trying to help Bernard rule out the months of May and June? Was he successful in directing Bernard to think in this way?

The first ambiguity of superfluity arose when we realize that if saying "..but I know that Bernard does not know too" already excludes May and June, why also say "I don't know when Cheryl's birthday is, ..." just to exclude June? Furthermore, the half-statement to exclude June came before the half-statement that excludes May and June. If both halves of the statement are clues to Bernard, then the first half "I don't know when Cheryl's birthday is, ..." is superfluous! Albert could have just said "I'm certain that Bernard does not know Cheryl's birthday now." That would have no ambiguity and made Bernard sit up and realize that it was an important deliberate clue.

But, in the sequence that it came, "exclude June!" hit Bernard first and the significance of the second part might escape Bernard or it might lead Bernard to think that the second part was not intended to be a clue. There is something wrong here. Now, I'm not sure whether Albert intended only the first half to be a clue, only the second half to be a clue, both are intended clues or perhaps, the whole statement contains no clue(s) at all!

(2) Bernard replied: "At first I don't know when Cheryl's birthday is, but now I know."

Again, we break his reply into 2 parts. The first part "At first I don't know when Cheryl's birthday is, .." seems to be a statement of fact in reply to affirm the second half of Albert's statement. If that was the case, Bernard had probably taken the second half of Albert's statement not as a clue but as a correct statement of his own position. This first part "At first I don't know when Cheryl's birthday is,.." seems superfluous as Albert already said he knew that Bernard didn't know, but if Bernard found it necessary to say it, it suggests that he might have thought that Albert was merely guessing.

The second part: ".. but now I know" suggested that something Albert said gave him the answer.

Now, a second ambiguity of attribution arises: which part of Albert's statement gave him his answer?

Imagine, you were Bernard and you were told 17 and the dialogue had not started yet; what would you be doing? You would be looking at June 17 and August 17 only and you would not be too bothered by the other dates. You knew that if Albert knew that you were not told 18 (which you weren't), his declaration of not having the answer in the first instance would be the very thing you need to know, to exclude June 17 and clinch the August 17 answer. You could announce your triumphant success in a flash because that was precisely what you were waiting for. If you look at the timing of the dialogue, it seems to support this theory.

In a normal conversation, it takes about 5 seconds (yes, I timed my wife saying the statement at a normal pace) for Albert to say "I don't know when Cheryl's birthday is, but I know that Bernard does not know too." By mid-sentence, Bernard would have heard what he wanted to hear and 2.5 seconds later, Albert finished his statement. Bernard would take a 3-second pause to start his reply. That is to say, he must have decided that he got the answer in 3 seconds flat or less. Bernard could not do any thinking during the 2.5 seconds when Albert was saying his second half as he was listening to it and he could not do any thinking when he was delivering his reply. So, Bernard's quick response in announcing his success suggests that August 17 is the answer.

On the other hand, if you were Bernard and was told 16, you would be deciding between May 16 and July 16. Before the dialogue started, you would be wondering as to what Albert could say to help you arrive at the answer. You would be less prepared than if you were told 17. So, when Albert finished his sentence, you could only register that June is definitely out, but you would be a little surprised and caught off-guard that Albert said that he knew that you didn't have the answer yet. Your first thought would be: "wow, how come he knew?", "has he been told by someone?", "can he read my mind?", and then later: "what's the significance of that?" and then many seconds later, if not minutes, begin to see the light: "could it be that Albert was being told July or August, and he was telling me that May and June are out, so the answer should be July 16!" Because Bernard was probably unprepared for what Albert said in the second half of this statement, he could not do all that impromptu thinking within the 3 seconds as suggested in the dialogue. His arrival at the answer so soon after the commencement of the dialogue seems to be against July 16 as the answer.

(3) Albert followed up: "Then I also know when Cheryl's birthday is."

Now, the third ambiguity of mind-reading concerns whether Albert read Bernard's mind correctly or not. Albert must judge: "did Bernard rule out May or not?". If Albert was optimistic, he would assume that Bernard had got all his clues (including the superfluous one) within 3 seconds and would interpret them correctly by excluding both May and June. He would have thought that Bernard is a very fast thinker, was prepared for what he said or could probably read Albert's mind. So, he proceeded to do his deductions, but if Bernard did not think or act like he assumed (ie in excluding May), we don't know what answer he would get.

If he was a little bit more careful, he would reflect: "I hope this guy got my clue, though I messed it up a bit", "well, I could rule out May and June because Cheryl told me it was July or August", "but, this guy (Bernard) wasn't even told about months at all and just getting my clue (assuming he got the right one) may or may not make him rule out May", "why did he restate that he didn't know initially when I already told him I knew that?", "could Bernard be having doubts about what I'm trying to tell him about excluding May and June?, "well, ok, let's say he retained May in his deliberations", "well, then there is only a single 17 in his remaining 7 options and this guy responded so fast, then it must be August 17!" (since Cheryl had told me August).

Cheryl's Birthday is Quantum Physics

So now we can conclude.

If the answer is July 16, Bernard must have been very alert and had superfast mental reflexes, was wise enough to discard Albert's superfluous clue, was not surprised by Albert's proclaimed knowledge of his own initial ignorance, did not doubt it despite finding it necessary to restate his ignorance, quickly excluded May and June in his calculations, and having read Albert's mind perfectly, came to a quick conclusion. Albert would have been glad that Bernard thought like him and confirmed his answer.

If the answer is August 17, Albert's claim that "but I know that Bernard does not know too" did not strike Bernard as a clue to exclude May and June (again) because 2.5 seconds earlier, Albert had just told him a clue to exclude June. Excluding June is already enough for him to come to a quick conclusion. The game ended almost immediately after it started (after one sentence). Albert realized that, due his own fault, his second clue to exclude both May and June might not have got through to Bernard. Alternatively, his statement "but I know that Bernard does not know too" was made for reasons other than as a clue. He tried to think like Bernard under those circumstances and arrived at the answer.

There is no unequivocal answer. The answer can change depending on which way the above 3 ambiguities swing (or rather your own preferred way?). Like Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle, the answer changes as your thinking about it changes. The answer is not determined by Cheryl, Albert nor Bernard but by our judgement about what Albert surmised to be Bernard's thinking and his theoretical choices when he declared that he found the answer. What Bernard actually found became unimportant. The answer is not already there to compel us to acknowledge. It is our interpretation of the interactive thinking and actions of the two men that makes us waver between one answer and the other.

My feeling is that if plausibility and correspondence with the narrative, the natural progression of the dialogue, the time-frame in which everything occurred (the game was over after the first sentence of the dialogue),  August 17 would get my vote.

8 comments:

  1. The game was not over after the first sentence, it was over after Bernard's statement. Prior to this, Albert was not certain.

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  2. Hi Craig,
    Yes, the game was over after the first sentence of the dialogue because, by then, Bernard had already found the answer. Once the answer was found by either of the 2 men, the game was over. It doesn't depend on Bernard's announcement of his discovery nor Albert's concurrence. Of course, it doesn't depend on us knowing the answer. The game is being played by the the 3 people in the narrative, not by us.

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    1. This is an arbitrary ending point to the game. Even if we adopt the perspectives of the participants, they both want to know.

      After Albert speaks, Bernard can deduce the answer. Fine, now Bernard knows.

      For Albert to be sure, he needs Bernard to confirm this in some way to be certain himself. Bernard's statement does this.

      Now Albert also knows, and we have reached a reasonable conclusion to the game: Albert and Bernard are both sure of the answer.

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    2. Dear Craig,
      After the first sentence, the game was not over for Albert and for us, the audience; but the important thing is that it was over for Bernard. It means that Bernard was able to come to a snappy conclusion within 3 seconds by latching onto Albert's first clue to exclude June 17 and pick out August 17.

      He did not have enough time to make sense of the 2 overlapping clues, decide that the second clue is the real one, deduce that he should exclude May and June, then look at his remaining alternatives and pick out the answer. This is much less plausible.

      In fact, the additive effect of the 3 ambiguities make August 17 the much more plausible answer in real life.

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  3. Before we get into solving the question we need to give a context to the case.
    Imagine there is a game show, A (Albert) and B Bernard) are contestants. There is a host and there is an audience. Chery comes and first writes down all the possible birthdays and then whispers month in the ear of A and Day in the ear of B. Two scenarios can arise
    a) The host asks both of them whether they know the birthday. Both of them say no and it moves forward
    b) The host first in a sequential manner asks A what is your opinion. Then based on the answer he asks B and then asks A again to give his final answer
    Scenario b is most likely as in scenario “a” Albert does not have to guess that Bernard does not know the birthday.
    Then in that case let’s cut short the first statement by A whose interpretation rules out the months May and June and all the dates in those months. It also rules out the date 14 as it is in both August and July.
    Let’s critically examine the interpretation from B’s angle after he listens to A’s statement and rules out 14. There are two important observations
    a) B knows the date
    b) B does not know that after his statement A is going to say something or the host is going to ask A again.
    Keeping those two things in mind if B has either of the dates 15, 16 and 17 he can very well give the statement that “he did not know earlier but now he knows the birth day” as all the date are unique combination with the months available (July and August)
    So the problem breaks down here for audience who is supposed to give the right answer. As audience cannot be sure about B’s number as from their point of view B can give the statement for either of the dates which 15, 16 and 17.
    So the question can be only logically solved if the rules are very clear to A ,B and audience that there will 3 questions. A will be asked the first, B will give response and then A will give another response. And now audience has to correctly guess. In such a case July 16 is the answer

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  4. Hi, Surojit,
    Thanks for your imaginative re-formulation of Cheryl's Birthday as a game show contest with a host asking the questions, but I'm puzzled as to why we should change some details to understand the original version better.

    Another responder wanted me to consider a re-formulation like this:
    "Russia planned to launch rocket on one of the following dates (10 possible dates). After they decided on final date, USA and China spies managed to capture the data. Unfortunately, China only captured the day, while USA only captured the month. Both sides wanted to figure out the actual date to themselves so decided to trick the other side find out: ..."

    Again, highly imaginative, but why should we change the narrative so much? So, I told him to forget it. I think, given the faithful use of reason and our confidence in critical thinking, the problem can be solved as it is. I have come to my conclusions.

    As a secondary school maths problem for children, undoubtedly, the answer is July 16. In this case, the story and details are not to be taken seriously. They are more like mathematical expressions. When they appear, you are supposed to proceed in a certain predictable and conventional way towards the answer. Reasoning is required, but it is one-dimensional and unrealistic.

    What I have tried to do is to take the narrative seriously as a real life puzzle. In that case, a forensic approach using neuroscience, rule of evidence, understanding of human language and behavior, situational and time-scale analysis and common sense will give us the best chance of finding the answer.

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  5. How can you possibly determine that Bernard replied to Albert's statement within 3 seconds, and even if he did how can you then conclude that Bernard would be unable to deduce that the reason for Albert's statement was maybe because Albert had been told Jul or Aug?
    The Aug17 answer doesn't stand up to any rigorous scrutiny

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  6. Dear Marley52,
    How is your day today? I hope you are doing fine.

    As I'd said in the last 2 paragraphs of my reply to Surojit in the comment above yours, there are 2 answers to Cheryl's Birthday depending on how seriously you take the question. If you take it like a typical Secondary school maths problem, you should ignore whether the narrative makes any sense in real life (realistically, rationally and temporally) but try to guess what's in the mind of the question setter (who thinks only in one linear way). In that case, you should just treat each sentence in the dialogue you would as a series of mathematical notations. That, of course, leads you to July 16 as the answer.

    However, if you want to take the narrative seriously and literally, you need to think deeper and adopt a forensic approach to solving the problem. If you carefully re-read my post above, especially about the 3 ambiguities that I've highlighted, you would have realized how I have come to the conclusion that August 17 is the more plausible answer.

    If you haven't realized it yet, my post is a tongue-in-cheek interpretation of this maths problem but I have a serious message. It is that there are many ways to rationally analyse a problem, so we should never be too quick and too sure that we have the right answer. In any case, this maths problem generated so much interest worldwide because it had been poorly set. If you try not to take the narrative seriously and ignore the implausibility and incredible aspects of it, you will arrive at the answer that the question setter wants. Paradoxically, if you scrutinize the question like a real-life puzzle, you may get a different answer. A well-set maths question should be clear, realistic and unambiguous so that more thoughtful school children will not have to suspend their disbelief or artificially simplify their thinking in order to tackle such maths problems.

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